I love the driver I bought from you guys in early ’08, and the rescue clubs and KZG irons are working well. Clearly the shaft is good for me. Given what I already have, what would you recommend I get if I wanted to ad a second driver with a lower ball flight and more run out? I don’t need two heads or two shafts, or any of that stuff, I just want to add a 2nd driver to my collection that I can use on those 20 mile an hour days, and when I go to Ireland next month. Do you recommend a 2nd Vector, or another club you sell?
Executive Director, Center for Customer Insight & Marketing Solutions and Senior Associate Director Center for Supply Chain Excellence McCombs School of Business
April 9, 2008
I was demostrating a driver from Lotus Golf (FitChip), with a shaft matched to the way I load and unload the shaft, and I've been hitting about 9-10 fairways per round, up from 2 or 3. I was hitting it so well, I brought out 2 other drivers I've used over the years, and I hit 1 or 2 fairways with those. Went back to the fitted demo, and went back up to 9 or 10. I finally ordered one after that kind of results. I played in a scramble the day after it arrived, and hit 9 of 14 fairways, including being able to reach a par 5 with a 4-iron after one drive. I played with it at my home course last Saturday and hit 7 of 11 fairways (I hit driver 11 times).In fact, I was so impressed with their fitting, I shipped my irons to them last week to be re-shafted. I'm anxious for them to come back!
You have changed my golfing life! I never would have believed that swing frequency shafts would have made that much of a difference in ones golf game unless I experienced it for myself. My driver is going between 20 and sometimes 40 yards farther than what I used to hit with my old shafts. Now that's almost unbelievable ! The fact is that I am now hitting it far enough to be able to hit any green at Fiddlesticks and I will surely be able to do the same at my home club up north. Bob O'Link (which is my home club) has six par 4 holes which are over 400 yards long. I am looking forward to going up north and startling many of my friends with my knew found distance and accuracy. By the way, as you well know my accuracy has greatly improved and I am now hitting many more fairways than before. These new results have caused Tony Aurelio and a number of other golf friends to become believers in your technology. Your swing frequency matched shafts have made the largest single improvement to my golf game of anything I have ever tried or done.
09/05/06 Dear Mr. Hackman,
I just wanted to thank you for the great job you and your staff did in helping me buy the correct driver for my son Chris. Chris wanted a new driver (one more up to date than his Callaway Steelhead) and mentioned that he wanted to go to one of the national retail golf stores. Being familiar with your fitting system, Fit Chip, I recommended that he meet with you so he could be measured for a driver that fit his swing. I was concerned that if he bought a generic club it would not be the right club for him. We met with Mike one Saturday and he measured Chris' swing with the FitChip. The results from the FitChip were loaded into your computer and you selected the recommended shaft that fit his swing. While we were there, Chris was actually able to test the recommended shaft because of your specially designed screw on heads and shafts.
Based on the testing of the sample club, I decided to order the new driver for him and picked it up a few days later. The day before Chris was to leave for college, we played golf at Scioto Reserve. When we first arrived at the course we went to the practice range to warm up. While warming up, Chris came over to me and said “Dad, I can't hit this driver”. Being a little irritated and thinking I had just wasted another $200 on a club that didn't work, I told him to keep trying it and maybe he would get used to it. Chris responded to me, “But Dad you don't understand. I am going to hit the houses located at the far end of the practice range if I keep hitting it” That was my first indication that the club was a winner.
That day on the course, Chris hit some amazing drives. On hole number 9, a 390-yard par 4, his drive was approximately 43 yards from the middle of the green. I figure his drive had to be in the range of 340 to 350 yards. All of his drives that day were straight and I would estimate that most were in the 280 to 320 yard range. The only problem Chris had that day was hitting his tee shot too far on a hole that was a dogleg left. Thanks again for your expertise.
I was so impressed with what you did for Chris that I just ordered a new driver for myself.
I just wanted to thank Jeff, Sean and Bryan for all their help. I am so pleased with my Driver, 3 wood and irons that they put together for me.
I was playing very well before coming in to your store and I can not believe how much better I hit the ball now. I honestly have gained 30 yards on my drive which sounds impossible but true. I was averaging 270 yards with a max distance of 310. With the new shaft they put in, I average 290 and have hit it 340 yards. My 3 wood is also very straight and long. I hit it around 270. It is very hard for someone at my level to gain so much, but with your fitting technology and great shafts, I was able to gain both distance and accuracy.
Again, Thank you for all your help.
Sean and David,
I want to say "thanks" for the free driver fitting while I was at Huntington Beach last week. The shaft that I bought from you has made a tremendous difference in my driving accuracy. I've hit 1.5 buckets of balls with the newly shafted TM580. Just as Sean said, my drives have straightened considerably. It did take me a few practice shots to get over the feeling of not "letting go" in order to not go right. Also as Sean said would happen, I did lose some yardage at first. I've actually gained yardage now that I don't hold back as much. I've always heard that if you slice a more flexible shaft helps correct that somewhat. Going to an X flex shaft after using a R flex for so long seemed like opposite overkill but it wasn't. It was the perfect flex for my very late shaft loaded swing. My wife doesn't golf but walks with me occasionally when I golf. She noticed immediately how much straighter I'm hitting the ball. I absolutely believe that your fittingmethod is the best.
Thanks again y'all.
Hi Bryan, just a note to let you know that I am really pleased with the shafts in my Irons and Driver. I was somewhat skeptical when I first heard about your services because I had always thought that "swing speed" was the primary determinant for shaft flex. Had I continued on that path, I would NEVER have had the shafts you recommended put into my Irons and Driver.
However, after a few months, I'm just as pleased, if not more, than I was when I first got the new shafts. The same seems to apply to the others that I know have used your services, too. The shafts that you recommended and put into my Irons and Driver continue to perform at a level above anything I have experienced before them, and believe me, I tried many! It's sometimes hard to express, but as a friend says, "they are just easier to hit".
Thanks again, and once I get my new fairway woods, I will be bring them down so you can put the correct shafts in them, too.
Palos Verdes Golf Club
Palos Verdes Estates, CA
February 17, 2003
Thank you for making my new driver, the Vector 370. I played the Callaway Steel Head III for a year and was very happy with the accuracy but gave up distance. I switched to the Taylor Made R540 for the past 3 months and got more distance but gave up accuracy (despite the press on it). I came to you to have my Taylor R540 shaft frequency evaluated because it was very hard to hit. (You found the frequency of my "Regular" shaft to be 225 -- whippier than a senior shaft).
In short, you built me a custom driver with the Vector 370 head and a shaft frequency tuned to my swing for half the cost of my Taylor Made. I began using it at Aviara last weekend and am AMAZED at the combination of distance and accuracy. I can hit it straight down the middle over 300 yards. Even my mishits off the toe went 260 straight down the middle.
I used to be a 250 yard driver but with your driver, I'm hitting it long like the young guys (I'm 47). The best part is the incredible accuracy. I even have the confidence to aim to specific spots on the fairway and hit it there 90% of the time. Last weekend I hit 14 out of 14 fairways. Your driver is the most accurate, long distance, soft feeling club I have ever used. Thank you!
Dr. Steven Eggleston
I have been playing golf for about 8 years and play to a 13 hcp from the senior men's tees. I have been using the Taylor Made Ti 320 driver for the last three years. In the last couple of months, I have switched to the Vector Beta Ti 444 driver because it gives me about 20 - 25 yards more on my drives and has enabled me to get on in regulation on long par 4's (360 - 380 yards with dog legs and hills). I demo's the Taylor Made R580 driver as well and found that the Vector 444 driver with the shaft fitted for me by Dave Dugally at Golf Coast Equipment in Huntington Beach, CA gave me better results for length and consistency.
Rose-Mary Basham, Lawyer, Vancouver, B.C. Canada
August 22, 2006
I have had you build a set of clubs for me and they are great. I would like to see a picture of the muscle back irons that you sell. They do not show up on your website and please include pricing for a complete set with my spec's.
When I hit the clubs they are wonderful!
When I don't hit them correctly they are almost like the previous clubs when I hit them properly...I believe that when I hit the club properly it is ~20 yards farther than the previous one. I'm hitting at least 4 times a week so I'm working at it...
Ok, I recently had my first experience with a clubmaker who put this little thing with a digital screen (FitChip) on my driver shaft and had me record certain readings. The readings ranged form 285-315. The clubmaker then picked out a shaft stiffness for me (he said it was a 278 or something like that). And this club has turned out to be excellent. I hit it about 15-20 yards farther and my mishits are no longer off into oblivion, but more often than not, within a playable range which is so much nicer. I have since had him re-shaft my fairway woods and build me a set of irons as well which I will be picking up next week.
Read what players have had to say about the FitChip Fitting system.
The following comments are from India and Asian Tour players where FitChip was introduced to the Tour some years ago by Gurbaaz Mann a Tour Player that we fitted just prior to that when he was playing here in the U.S.A.
“It has made the game much easier for me to play. I can shape the ball better, I have exact yardages on all my clubs and the ball flight is much more predictable.” - Ajeetesh Sandhu (Asian Tour & P.G.T.I.)
“The Process is one of a kind and it gives me confidence that the numbers don’t lie. I trust it” -Sujjan Singh (Asian Tour) -
“It is the most unique process. I am already a club longer on everything.” - Simi Mehra (L.P.G.A)
“Having always been a good ball striker, I never felt the need to be fit-out leave alone undergoing a process. But it works better than anything else. The biggest difference is that I am now able to hit my long irons high and straight and don't use my hybrids anymore.” - Ranjit Singh Rathore (P.G.T. of India)
"I fought the hook with any driver I played. Now I can shape the ball any which way with confidence and best of all, I’m 20 yards longer off the tee.” - R. Murthy (P.G.T. of India)
“From averaging 10 greens in regulation, to 14.” - Aditya Singh Chauhan (P.G.T. of India) -
More One Liners about FitChip fitted Clubs:
"Wow! Could this machine be the missing link in golf ?" Peter Jacobson, PGA Tour
"I can't stop hitting fairways! When can you do my Irons? Doug Martin, PGA Tour
"Boy this thing really works" Arnold Palmer, Senior Tour
" I could not do that with my other Driver" ( after hitting off the end of the driving range) Bobby Nichols, Senior Tour
"You were right - I'm glad I came to see you" Mike Kaido, Nike Tour
"I don't hit it to the right any more - and I am longer" Dan Olson, Nike Tour
" I just called to tell you I hit the 6th green today with my driver - 360 yards! I thought I could not get any more distance but I have picked up 40 yards." Bert Lecher, Long Drive Tour
" I have shot 95 for 15 years. My first round with my fitted clubs was 76 and I haven't been higher than 82 since!" Stan Edgel, Amateur
Good to hear from you again. Yes, I wanted to share the "good news" with Rich. For the first time, I am seeing actual gaps in my clubs and relatively consistent ball flight paths... recognizing that most of my stroke issues are exactly that... my stroke. I am pleased to have come across you via your website. I think I told you that I had figured out a club should flex and then be straight at impact in order to obtain maximum efficiency and effectiveness. To realize you had come to that conclusion many years ago and actually applied it to club fitting was fantastic. I could say I am a "believer"... but this isn't a matter of faith. It is evidence that the laws of physics have been applied properly. The results speak for themselves.
From Club Makers
I fit a golfer today that came from a fitting by Mizuno with their new on the club fitting system that tries to copy FitChip at a local golf course. He told me they told him he needed regular shafts. I suggested he try the FitChip to see if I agree. After 7 swings with his driver I downloaded to computer. All but two swings were covered by the average green dot, all the data added up to 172 except two were 171 and indicating a 288cpm shaft (a XX shaft). I installed a shaft in his driver and told him to go try it. He didn't believe anything I was telling him. He came back a couple hours later shaking his head saying I don't believe it. He was hitting the ball straight as an arrow and clearing the trees at 240 yds. He had hit here at this range before so knew how far he usually hit it. He normally, only hit to the trees. He was still thinking I put in a regular shaft. I explained what I did. Anyway he is bringing back his 3 wood tomorrow. I was laughing at his comments as he was telling me how great the shaft worked for him. I know he will send me more business.
I am getting a lot of referrals this week as the weather finally warmed up and the non-league golfers are getting out. One of the guys that was in, got matched up with 3 others for a foursome and all of the other 3 were hitting my FitChip Prescription shafts.
Haven't contacted you lately mostly because my business died in Sept. It has been really slow. I did have a golf customer stop today and relayed a story I think you will be interested in. He had stopped at a store in Ann Arbor, Mi called Miles of Golf. They do instruction and fittings as well as sell a lot of clubs and new shafts. They have the latest equipment including the Trackman with heated outdoor Tee boxes for hitting. I had fit this golfer with a FitChip shaft. He is a scratch golfer with a 0 handicap. His cpm is 287. Anyway he noticed that two of his buddies were there checking out there fitchip shafts that I had installed and seeing if they could get a better fit. He watched them get fitted. They are also low HC probably a 2 or 3. The fitter told them he couldn't fit them with a shaft any better than the Fitchip shaft they had. I thought that was quite a story coming from the largest fitting center in Michigan. Both of these guys are hitting shafts in the 280 cpm range. I also had a guy I fit last summer who had purchased a $450 shaft at the same place. He is now hitting a Fitchip shaft also.
P.S. You can see the Ann Arbor shop at MilesofGolf.com
I got a call today from my friend who plays the mini senior tours and lives in Phoenix. I talked to you last week because he was hitting his new Fitchip 286 cpm shaft straight but 20 yards shorter than his old shaft. He figured out how to hit it and has gained back his distance and is very pleased with it. He called me today because he has 3 other tour players who want to be fit. My question is do you have a set of instructions to send along with my Fitchip so that he can gather the data from his buddies swings. He thinks he can get me some business if I will send the FitChip to him. I guess I may have to look at purchasing another Fitchip from you. What does just the Fitchip cost minus the software? I hate to be without my fitchip while I am shipping it back and forth. If you do have some instructions on setting up the fitchip for a customer it would save me writing them up. This could result in something good if I could get some of these players interested. I took a count of how many shafts I have ordered since I started using the Fitchip, less then a year ago, and it is 198. I fit a golfer this week that went from a 260 shaft to a 216 and he increased his driver yardage 40 yards, his words not mine.
Wanted to let you know that as the year has progressed I only like the set of clubs you made for me more and more. The high light coming last week when They carried me to the CPGA supper senior Canadian championship and saw me come out the winner in a playoff. There is no question that I am hitting the driver farther [average of 250 to 265 yds] and yes they go straighter. Hope this finds you well and enjoying the summer.
Don Green, CPGA member.
I fitted him for less then a Senior flex.
A story from the 2009 Equipment Issue of Golf Digest. This was the lead story for the Iron section of that issue written by the Equipment Editor.
The Problem: Middle - handicapper Bernard Portnoy prudently chose graphite shafts for his new irons, but the R-flex (regular) shafts that came with the set produced an inconsistent ball flight.
The Fix: Club-fitter Josh Musselman, of Golf Express in Bonita Springs, Fla., Measured Portnoy's shafts on a vibration monitor (Frequency Meter) and discovered they were senior and women's flexes, without a single R-flex. Musselman had Portnoy go through a system called FitChip, which measures the load and force golfers put on the shaft and determines the ideal frequency for each shaft. the discovery? Portnoy's quick transition from back-swing to downswing puts a lot of force on the club at impact, so the 73-year-old actually needed S-flex (stiff) shafts.
The Result: "I've gained 10 to 15 yards with every iron," Portnoy says. "More important, the accuracy is astounding. I previously shot rounds in the mid-80s to low 90s; now I'm recording scores in the low 80s."
From a very prestigious ball striker we all know well.
Dear Lotus Golf
Because I am so consistent I have got the job of testing clubs for all the major golf club manufacturers. Because of that I was never fitted for what my best shaft stiffness should be. Of course it did not make a lot of difference because I never play golf courses for score only hit balls for testing the various golf club components and balls. However, during one of my test programs where Lotus golf, was involved with Tom Stites and Nicklaus Golf, I was fitted for the proper shaft. This occurred when I was testing a 260 CPM shaft/stiff and was hooking the shot on every swing (my consistency). The fitting with Lotus Golf's FitChip system said I needed a 221 CPM shaft/low Seniors. With This shaft I hit every shot absolutely straight and with 12% more distance.
I really liked the results and this would be the shaft I would choose to play if I ever got a chance to play a game of golf. The FitChip fitting system is something special to be able to pick the correct shaft for any swing but for now, I must go back to work hitting balls and testing more golf clubs, the curse of being so consistent.
Recently Fitted Long Drive Contestant
We recommended a much softer shaft. He Qualified with six 400 + yard drives in the Grid, 439 the longest
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